Navigating Grief and Loss

In typical times, grief is a challenging and complicated emotion. The pandemic resulted in almost everyone being touched in some way by this experience. One fifth of Americans knew someone who died from COVID-19. On this episode of Coming Back Better, our host Paul Deger shares his story of grief and loss during the pandemic and how he responded to the challenges of this experience and found a way through.

“You can think of grief as being the continuation of love after we lose the person that we love. It is the way that we continue the relationship after the person dies.” – Dr. Katherine Shear

Marjorie and Paul hear from Dr. Katherine Shear, a leading expert in grief, about what grief is, how to cope with grief and how we can help someone going through grief.

Meet the Expert:

M. Katherine Shear, MD is the Marion E. Kenworthy Professor of Psychiatry at Columbia School of Social Work and Vagelos College of Physicians and Surgeons. Dr. Shear began her work with studies of panic disorder by participating in the development and extensive testing of a cognitive behavioral therapy for panic. To read more, click here:

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